Fleet-wide Meeting Minutes: 3/31/2011
Attendance
Fleet Admiral NicholasJohn16 discussed membership information:
Fleet Admiral NicholasJohn16 handed out some Commendations
Agenda Submissions
Call to close meeting
NicholasJohn16: Alright guys, we've ran out of time now so I'll think I'll go ahead and wrap things up now.
I want to thank each one of your for coming and participating. It's deeply appreciated.
If any of you still have questions that you'd like to discuss with the Officers and I, you're welcome to stay after and chat with us.
| NicholasJohn16 | Bfelczer | Doogiegood |
| Zepari | Zeryon | American_Wolf |
| Anhora | Asclepios72 | Camenecium |
| Colivia | Faldian | H4Z |
| Jacien | Joslur | Kaejae |
| MrBlueGrey | Propecius | SeanNewBoy |
| Sparkz88 | Veebee | Yodu |
Fleet Admiral NicholasJohn16 discussed membership information:
- 769 registered people on the Stonewall Fleet site
- 254 active members
- over 1,000 characters (1,243)
- Zepari is diligent about managing our numbers from hitting the max in our fleets.
- Doogiegood is keeping a slow increase of new members joining our sister guild, Knights of Stonewall.
- Knights of Stonewall currently has 27 users signed up on swtor.com, a very good start.
- Yodu asked if there is an issue with inactive members. Zepari reported that it is not a problem. If they are removed, they are welcome to come back and are not removed from the website.
- American Wolf noted that we have roughly 1/4 active members. NickolasJohn16 stated that we bring in around 45 new members a month, members stop playing the game and move on somewhere else. These members usually come back shortly after a new Season comes out.
- NicholasJohn16 also speculates that we will see a higher participation when Season 4 comes out. Season 4 will be redoing ground combat and the Foundry and playing new missions.
Fleet Admiral NicholasJohn16 handed out some Commendations
- For the Crafting Corp, @4ID, @VeeBee and @Vandrian4951. With the launch of the Store, these Crafting Corp members have selflessly offered their time and skills to help provide service to the fleet. Thanks for all you have done for the fleet.
- The Fleet Captains also provide a vital role in the fleet by; making sure invites are given out promptly, help run events, and mentor new recruits. Thanks to @Colivia, @Spark88, @Khyfa, and @Captainjtkirk for their dedication to the fleet.
Agenda Submissions
- Dealing with those members who participate in both our fleet and another fleet. They find it difficult to participate in fleet events, order from the fleet or make donations to the fleet and request that there are ways to help them participate in the fleet.
- Zepari: If they mean that we don't cater to characters that are in other fleets, then that is difficult to do, we can only see the characters in our fleet
- MrBlueGrey: perhaps they could create and alt just for stonewall? if they haven't already that is
- Zepari: Maybe we need to make it clear that as long as you have one character in our fleet you are a member and all characters are welcome to participate?
- veebee: i don't have a problem with an other fleet i would take too may sapces with 30 characters
- Zeryon: It really just seems logical that if you're going to be a part of Stonewall, you should have at least a single character in one of the three fleets.
- Zepari: Yes, they can always move items they order from us to another character by mailing it to themselves.
- camenecium: As long as events are crossposted on the website and to the fleets, I don't even see how it's necessary to be in a SW fleet to know what's going on with plenty of notice. As for events, if they come to the forums, they see the events. I know I don't check the in game events, as they arent always reliable with the darn bugs. I check the website instead. We also have the vent info available as well as the chat channel, and the Times, for events am not sure how we could best facilitate people joining in, other than what we have.
- NicholasJohn16: That does seem like the simplest solution and we welcome visiting members to include characters in our in-game fleet.
- Time Zones for events are an issue for some.
- Events usually listed inside the event. The times on the event itself should be your time zone. If not, make sure your time zone is set correctly for the site.
- Zepari: We do organize most events to fit with the majority of players, (this adversely affects UKers too btw), but anyone can run an event in any time zone if they wish, they don't need to wait for an "official" event to be posted
- Colivia: i do appreciate how folks make a good effort at repeating events so the different "zones" can equally participate
- MrBlueGrey: yeah Zepari, there isn't much we can do I guess, unless any of you can control time. Let’s get on that
- NicholasJohn16: Hopefully, we can recruit a Q to join Stonewall Fleet eventually.
- Zepari: Don't be afraid to start your own event for a time that suits you if you want to get a large group together
- Has to do with creating alliances with other fleets and a chat channel to participate with other fleet while in-game. Specifically, the user sites difficulty to get teams together for specific missions or STFs.
Doogiegood, our Ambassador, has been talking with other fleets and actively pursuing alliances. As for an in-game channel for alliances, we have on already called, StonewallAllies, which is used by some members. - Zepari: I think that it's difficult to get a truely cross-fleet channel as every fleet has their own and if say 5 fleets get a channel it would be far too busy. I like to think we are big enough to help each other out, and we should concentrate on being more helpful to each other, we always have people online
- sparkz881: then there is moderation, who moderates what according to what rules by which fleet? I do really like the idea and can see it working on a small scale, but like Zep says, it would get far too busy
- MrBlueGrey: yeah I joined the Accolade hunters channel after we all did CE with them one night, and I had to turn it off. To much chit chat, I could never see people trying to get my attention
- Zepari: Isn't finding teams outside of a fleet what Zone chat is for? or local chat outside an STF system?
- camenecium: That's map-specific. The custom channels are global, making it easier to find people wandering the galaxy.
- NicholasJohn16: That's a good point Sparky.
- MrBlueGrey: Maybe there should be more emphasis on using the in game mail system and the Stonewall website/forums to create teams ahead of time
- MrBlueGrey: I've seen a lot of anger in the chat system when no one responds for teams, lately
- NicholasJohn16: Yes, everyone is welcome to use the website and forums to plan events ahead of time to get more people together
- NicholasJohn16: Do you guys feel that it's difficult to get teams together?
- Colivia: Personally, I don't
- camenecium: If you're not at endgame, yes. The rush to get the Reman officer fixed that for a while.
- MrBlueGrey: No, it just depends on if people want to do whatever mission is being planned
- sparkz881: not really if you plan it out, use the forums and events pages, try zone and local chat if you need a few more
- Jacien: not really, if I need a team I can usually find one in fleet
- American_Wolf: I don't either. Seems like there is always someone online that likes to get together for a team event.
- NicholasJohn16: I have a feeling that its more difficult for those who aren't max level.
- Colivia: or you have to be willing to repeat missions you may have already done
- NicholasJohn16: We need to remember that when we're doing missions, there is the squading ability and that just cause someone is lower, doesn't mean they can't come with.
- Zepari: And missions can be repeated now for extra rewards so that's a bonus
- h4z: for me, teams are a problem because of how i play & time. ive observed a lot of effort by members trying to find teams
- h4z: that is, offering & organizing teams, not single players not finding them
- Has to do with members on Ventrilo being standoffish and cliquish, that some members feel ignored or unwelcome.
- There are times when folks splinter off to their private rooms/groups but that's what vent is designed for, otherwise there would just be one public room. I have never felt left out.
- I haven’t seen anything standoffish of late, but everyone has the group of people they speak to the most and go to a fleet room. There’s nothing wrong with that, nor anyone asking to join in the room, have hardly seen a no if people ask unless there is a conversation of a more personal nature going on
- I only go to Vent when I must; not really my thing.
- Some people can be a little rude, but I am not sure what can be done about that
- Sometimes it is difficult if one is talking to another person and several other people join then it seems as though there is a private clique although it didn't start that way
- It's kind of natural for folks who know each other to talk amongst themselves. That could cause people who are new or are quiet to feel left out. The squeaky wheel gets the grease.
- I have noticed that some people misunderstand why 5 people might be in a fleet room (cuz they are doing a mission/stf) and think that they should be "allowed" to pop in the room and begin causing a distraction to the team, which leads to them being angrily booted out of the room
- NicholasJohn16: Okay, it's good to hear that this is part of a bigger problem. I encourage all of you to try to include those who wish to be included. Despite our differences, we are all one big family.
- Zepari: We have a Ventrilo etiquette guide in the Welcome Center now, hopefully more people read that soon
Call to close meeting
NicholasJohn16: Alright guys, we've ran out of time now so I'll think I'll go ahead and wrap things up now.
I want to thank each one of your for coming and participating. It's deeply appreciated.
If any of you still have questions that you'd like to discuss with the Officers and I, you're welcome to stay after and chat with us.
