Dave (Voleron)

Voleron

First all LGBT School in History

January 17 2015
This is really interesting and my immediate reaction is that it sounds like a cool idea! I think that if I'd had the opportunity to go to an LGBT high school that I probably would have. My friends knew that I was gay, and once people start gossiping, the word naturally spread to other people. While I can't remember being bullied for being gay in high school, I also didn't feel like it was an environment in which I could be completely open about it, either.

This led to me finding places outside of the school setting where I could be with people like myself, and do the social things that other kids my age were doing, like dating, making friends and going to parties and outings that were relevant to my sexuality, which is a big part of growing up. For me, school was just the place I went to take classes and as soon as the day was done, I'd immediately take off to be with my gay friends whom I felt most comfortable with. I think that being able to experience this sort of thing within my school environment would've made my school experience so much more than the job it was for me, where I was basically just punching the clock and not getting involved in any sports or activities.

I partially agree with you Meta, in that I think it's very important to build resiliency in youth. They never know what they're going to encounter later in life and it's good to be prepared for the realities of human interaction in the world at large. With that said, I feel that there are other ways to build resiliency than throwing kids in the proverbial shark tank. What brought out those skills and developed that resiliency in me, was being able to find myself and really develop 'who I was', in a friendly and supportive environment which included gay peers and older LGBT role models who encouraged me, taught me, and helped me to develop in a positive way. This didn't exist in my school and it's too bad that it didn't, because not all LGBT youth are going to be as lucky as I was to have the means to seek out their own supports. The benefit of the school wouldn't JUST be to isolate kids from LGBT based bullying, but ALSO to allow them to develop socially, which would build the strength in them that's so critical to their success and survival in the world at large.

On the other hand, I see potential issues with segregation too. Part of what has advanced the LGBT movement so significantly in areas of the world in recent years, has been the increased visibility of LGBT people in society. For youth to grow up to be accepting of us, it's important that we're visible and part of their lives so that people know us as the friends, neighbours and everyday community members that we are. As Gravity has suggested, segregating our respective populations might well end up being counter-productive to that cause, thereby perpetuating the hostile environments that we're trying to remove these kids from by putting them in an LGBT-only school. This brings us to Tlek's concerns about the school being targeted and I think that reducing that potential for danger is probably best served by not segregating the populations.

At the end of the day, I think that so long as this kind of school becomes the exception and not the norm, it might well turn out to be a good idea and a positive experience in the lives of many LGBT youth. I think that it's equally important to have LGBT components to the regular school system, which would include stand alone courses as well as inclusion in the regular curriculum. Kids need easy access to LGBT youth groups or gay-straight alliances in the school setting so that kids not attending these LGBT schools don't have to search for the supports that they need.



If you're an LGBT youth in Canada looking for an experience similar to something you might experience at an LGBT school, check out Camp fYrefly. It's run by some of the amazing people who supported me when I was growing up!

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Kiera Skylar

LoonShy

First all LGBT School in History

January 17 2015
type slower, you'll miss fewer typos. :P


but, yeah, if it is all choice based, then it could work, but if it is "transfer them from here to there so we don't need to deal with it" then it can easily turn to a concentration camp situation, it just needs to have someone that views us as an abomination, or even tries to split us into categories, for it to go wrong.
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Frozenlily

First all LGBT School in History

January 17 2015
Heres the thing about this whole idea, It's deffinatly a Grey Area. It can be seen as a great possitive idea where you can feel safe going though your school years and being with like minded people. It's bad because it kinda feels like (Please don't be offended) When the african americans were segregated in america. I feel like it can be seen this way by those that do have a "dim view" but we all truly do not know how it will work out till it's actually implimented. I hope that if it does go through I hope we see more progress in society. I'd also like to see more LGBT teachers and members of the School Boards.

In my school it was not till our Principle left in Grade 11 that we got a LGBT friendly Priniciple that actually cared and protected the students. Times are changing and we all are apart of it. With this school i'm sure it will be VULENTARY and not MANDATORy.... which will be truly the deciding factor if it will be a great thing...
Kiera Skylar

LoonShy

First all LGBT School in History

January 17 2015
Quote by Gravity

Tlek that is a very dim view to take and as this would be opening where i come from i can say i feel it would be perfectly safe.


I have a very dim view of lgbt tolerance in society, and gathering us all up in one place is heading dangerously close to either reviving the concentration camps, or at least doing an x-mutant "mutie scum" segregation, the only problem with that is, as far as I know, not one lgbt person is able to heal from being brutally beaten or burned to death by someone they trust.


I want to be wrong on this, but I can't help but fear the worst, I mean, we have cases that get noticed like luka magnotta, or jordan sheard, how many get swept under the rug by someone that feels we deserved that fate?
Edited January 17 2015 by LoonShy
Ben

Gravity

First all LGBT School in History

January 17 2015
I am in two minds over this it could potentially avoid bullying but it could be counterproductive for integrating LGBT people into society as a whole.

Also Tlek that is a very dim view to take and as this would be opening where i come from i can say i feel it would be perfectly safe.
Kiera Skylar

LoonShy

First all LGBT School in History

January 17 2015
I wonder how long before the shooting?
Michael Minks-Bungard

Dax_aussie_boy

Tribble Server Patch Notes: 9th January 2015

January 17 2015
Hey Everyone,

Just thought to bring this up in case someone hasn't either read up or made anyone aware of the secondary deflector slots.

The following is from the recent blog post that can be found on the STO Launcher.

Secondary Deflectors

Also Tribble Servers have also been updated with some general fixes, corrections on Command Officer Abilities and so on.

Tribble Maintenance and Release Notes - January 16, 2015

Have fun reading.

Dax
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Frozenlily

First all LGBT School in History

January 17 2015
I was watching The Social on our Dining room TV at work and all of a sudden they bring this topic up. Now this is a topic that reminds me of a past topic we discussed about a LGBT village or town. This is something I feel is a great idea. It will help minimize the bullying of LGBT kids of all ages. Bullying for me started when I was in grade 3 and I didnt know why people were doing that. If this was around when I was starting High School I believe I would go into that school. Since there is all girl schools and all boy schools there should be all LBGT Schools and I aprove :)

Pink News: http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2015/01/15/uks-first-lgbt-school-planned-for-the-manchester/

The Social: http://www.thesocial.ca/news/headlines/first-gay-school-could-be-coming-to-britain

Please put your thoughts into the Comments bellow :)
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Edited January 17 2015 by Frozenlily
Sej @Ereiid

Ereiid

Command Officer BOFF Abilities

January 17 2015
Sorry 'bout the presumptive pedantry, j00 guys.

Been thesis reviewing the kind of student that you'd rather just hand the stupid degree, to get 'er out of your hair and onto someone else's problem, y'know?

tl;dr: I'm a little edit-happy.

:evil:
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Alain Rojas

Ngagecloak

Command Officer BOFF Abilities

January 16 2015
Quote by Ereiid
Quote by Ngagecloak
Aww, who am I kidding. the new Starfleet ships will look like the prolapsed genitals of a syphilitic Gorn


Edited, based on precedent


:lol:
Michael Minks-Bungard

Dax_aussie_boy

Command Officer BOFF Abilities

January 16 2015
thanks sej LOL
Sej @Ereiid

Ereiid

Command Officer BOFF Abilities

January 16 2015
Quote by Ngagecloak
Aww, who am I kidding. the new Starfleet ships will look like the prolapsed genitals of a syphilitic Gorn


Edited, based on precedent
Edited January 16 2015 by Ereiid
Sej @Ereiid

Ereiid

Command Officer BOFF Abilities

January 16 2015
Quote by Dax_aussie_boy
Again this is just an idea. Whether or not its feasible or not at this stage of the game is a completely different question all together.


Edited for you.
Michael Minks-Bungard

Dax_aussie_boy

Command Officer BOFF Abilities

January 16 2015
True, it would be a bit much of an overhaul of a ship build system.

But that said, nothing ventured nothing gained is what i say.

The idea i had was essentially you start off in the miranda class or career specific class ship and you build upon that, with each level. Once you have obtained the next rank, the ship design would open up to further customization of the look of the ship and access to other things (consoles, weapon armaments and so on).

This essentially would be like mixing R&D with the upgrade system for parts and commodities and maybe specialized slots for special items as such, the tempest rail gun weapon or console specific to that ships like cloaking or the other gold consoles.

Again this is just an idea. Whether or not its valuable or not is a completely different question all together.
Edited January 16 2015 by Dax_aussie_boy
Sej @Ereiid

Ereiid

Command Officer BOFF Abilities

January 16 2015
Quote by Dax_aussie_boy

But i personally would love to see a different means or way of ship building which i personally think could be a sight worth seeing , but than again not everyone would love that idea, but hey what can one do.


So, like - a rebuild of the ship build system?

I mean, they've overhauled some game systems, crafting, reputation gear - and we're still seeing balance aftershocks from at least a few of those. I don't think any of those would be as fundamental to the operation of the game.

I've never liked STO's build system as much as I preferred Bridge Commander or Starfleet Command's. But that's one ship, I expect, has sailed.
Michael Minks-Bungard

Dax_aussie_boy

Command Officer BOFF Abilities

January 16 2015
Quote by Ereiid
Quote by Gravity
It seems likely to me there will be a new set of T6 ships released which are command specialised to drain all of our cash away.


With only one (and a half) of the Tier 6 ships really representing canonical hero ships, it might be their one winning opportunity to get us to buy T6 ships.

I'm just not seeing them around the game in numbers I would have expected going into DR. Leading me to suspect that what players have Ops Pack or buy T6 a la carte, do so for the Traits, and return to T5U ships for the long haul by virtue of gear investments, sentimentality, or the Boff/console ratios.


I had a feeling that Cryptic would be concerned about the ratio of how many people are using the T6 to T5-U ships to be honest but that said, there possibly a way to get people involved with these T6 ships.

But i personally would love to see a different means or way of ship building which i personally think could be a sight worth seeing , but than again not everyone would love that idea, but hey what can one do.

Mind you, i do have other thoughts of what i think has happened as such... but thats a different things all together.
Sej @Ereiid

Ereiid

Command Officer BOFF Abilities

January 16 2015
Quote by Gravity
It seems likely to me there will be a new set of T6 ships released which are command specialised to drain all of our cash away.


With only one (and a half) of the Tier 6 ships really representing canonical hero ships, it might be their one winning opportunity to get us to buy T6 ships.

I'm just not seeing them around the game in numbers I would have expected going into DR. Leading me to suspect that what players have Ops Pack or buy T6 a la carte, do so for the Traits, and return to T5U ships for the long haul by virtue of gear investments, sentimentality, or the Boff/console ratios.
Alain Rojas

Ngagecloak

Command Officer BOFF Abilities

January 16 2015
Quote by Gravity
It seems likely to me there will be a new set of T6 ships released which are command specialised to drain all of our cash away.

Though who knows really but its the most financially profitable thing to do and lets face it that is cryptics forte


Well, I suppose they have to recoup their profit margins somehow since I stopped buying Lock Box keys! :lol:

But even a ship-phile like me is fast approaching my satiation point. If they started creating micro transactions for additional ship upgrades/customization/skins for what we already have, that might tempt me.

Aww, who am I kidding. If the new Starfleet ships are purty & have a saucer, they'll get my money.
Edited January 16 2015 by Ngagecloak
Tsar Agus

WhiteOnmyoji

Command Officer BOFF Abilities

January 15 2015
Yes it as and as a PWE Shareholder. ME GUSTA!