Thanks for all the feedback so far guys,
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I wouldn't mind seeing a third bit as a general rule of thumb of all members in its own category referring to a more common sense and etiquette of behaviour when respecting those of different nationality, sexuality, gender, intelligence and so on. Maybe following the "K.I.S.S" method would be a good idea. (Keep it simple silly).
Being honest Dax, I'm not entirely sure I understand this. Are you saying we should go into detail about how you should behave when dealing with members of different cultures? Because honestly it would take a large document and probably a member-by-member breakdown of how people would like to be interacted with.
I do think as an LGBT community re-enforcing the point about using the correct pro-nouns may be a good idea though as the importance of this can't be understated.
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Also, people in the UK spell it: behaviour?
Thanks Kasper, I'll fix the mistakes I made. I make no secret that writing is not one of my strengths. I'm lucky if I can put a sentence together most of the time.
But yes we spell it behaviour. It does pose an interesting but not really "all that" important question though. Should I be writing in American English because most of our members are? Or should I write in British English because I'm British and I'm writing it.
..... We may need a TV debate to settle that one. :p
Re: mrgig00Thanks for your feedback.
It's an interesting point I think you're making but you've kind of hit the nail on the head. I'm trying to make the code of conduct more general to allow for judgement calls from the leadership.
It can sound like a bad thing but it's not. There is no risk that a single admiral will look at one thing you've said or done, take it out of context, and then punish you for it. That's just not how we have ever conducted ourselves.
Context and intent are very important when dealing with behavioural issues and having the extra freedom to make judgement calls actually helps us to be less authoritarian when someone makes a bad joke or accidentally says the wrong thing and someone else is offended.
This doesn't mean people will be able to get away with bad behaviour, we have our warning systems in place and they will still apply.
About your second point, it's a great point and our leader NicholasJohn also expressed similar feelings to me. I will try and reword it in a way that remedies this.
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I like the simplification, but perhaps it's a little over simplified. Seeing only the WIP version would make me go to an admiral/cap'n and ask what the *real rules* are ("So, what'll get me banned?"). However, I'm a little more outgoing than some others might be and have no problem going up to fleet leadership.
There is now way to make a more general, easier to read and understand, code of conduct but it still have the same level of detail.
Going a middle-of-the-road approach will simply allow members to bend the rules because it didn't specifically state that their exact action was wrong.
We are going with a more common sense approach and honestly anybody who can't understand that you should respect others, not post adult material and .. honestly .. not be a dick .. probably doesn't belong in a community with other living human beings.
And that's not me attacking you personally, I absolutely understand the point you're making but do we honestly believe the majority of people are reading the current code of conduct? I don't think so.
Anything we can do to help establish who are are and what we are about in an quick and easy to read manner is a good thing. Or at least, I think it is.
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Excellent points. Did the admins meet before this post went out? I know Halish was approved to work it but what's the aim, more loose and casual or more defined yet casual rules?
We didn't meet if you're talking about a Teamspeak meeting. However this has been up on the Admin forums for some time (quite a long time actually) and only recently I requested more feedback from the Admins on this and they advised we post it for public feedback.
I think it's clear what the aim is. To make a more clear, easy to understand, code of conduct that members will actually bother to read (hopefully).
This is JUST the code of conduct. This isn't a re-write of the entire welcome centre. The members handbook contains details of the disciplinary procedures.
Although the handbook is in need of new love as the code of conduct is.
