I've been coming across discussion of this elsewhere.

The scuttlebutt - and these, I should point out are unsubstantiated, so please take them with a grain of salt or disregard them as outright rumormongering, if you'd prefer - reads thusly:

Axanar Productions did so well with their Kickstarter campaign, that they purchased camera, sound, lighting, and editing equipment, and studio space - capital investments that readily breach the not-for-profit threshold that CBS/Paramount have used in the past to tolerate fan productions.

Beyond that, there have been additional (again, unsubstantiated) rumors of general hubris and unprofessional arrogance from the filmmakers.

Such much so that what is known is that Tony Todd, who features heavily in Prelude to Axanar, detached himself from the project well before CBS/Paramount threw the hammer down.

Again, is any of this true? Maybe the truth lies somewhere in between.

But it's not likely that Paramount has any concerns that the general viewing audience would watch Axanar instead of Beyond. There simply isn't a broad enough fanbase invested in fan films to make any serious dent in the multimillion dollar returns that Paramount can reasonably expect from Beyond.

And moreover, how many Trekkies - anywhere on the spectrum from casual to hardcore - would you imagine seeing Axanar and not Beyond? Even in spite of the general grumbling from the fanbase about the Bad Robot approach to Trek?

For what it's worth - it's not likely the Axanar filmmakers are going to be for want; at the very least, they have a bloody awesome sizzle reel to shop around for their next gigs.

It looks quite interesting and want to try it. Sadly I don't have the money to buy it at the moment, so it'll have to wait. Have bookmarked it for the future though.

For me it all depends on (and I'm speaking of my opinion rather than any knowledge of US copyright laws) if the Axanar creators are planning on making any kind of commercial profit from Axanar.

If they are trying to make money then it seems pretty clear that they probably are in violation because you can't do that with an IP you don't have the rights to.

If thats not the case and every penny of the kickstarter and every penny of profit from the eventual distribution of the film stay out of the producers pockets than I don't see why they would bother to take action.

I remember years ago when another game company used the phrase RvR to describe their large scale PvP in the pre-launch advertising and Mythic Entertainment sued to protect their copyright as they owned the phrase RvR.

People hated mythic for it because from a consumer point of view RvR had grown larger than Dark Age and Warhammer and had become something of a common-used phrase like Pritt Stick or Hoover.

Mythic responded saying that HAD to protect their copyright because if you don't actively protect it than you simply lose it. If enough people are using your IP for profit and you haven't acted then a MASSIVE company starts using it and you try and stop them it may be to late because you failed to take action when past-companies did it. A precedent has been set.

So say CBS/Paramount decided not to act against Axanar and they make a nice healthy profit from Star Trek and then Warner Brothers decide to make a 200 million Star Trek movie CBS/Paramount may find their hands are tied because the mistake was made with Axanar.

I'm not saying that any of this is true just that it has happened in the past (not with something as high-profile as Star Trek and it would definitely prompt a massive multi-million pound lawsuit if it did happen) but sometimes you have to do things just to protect your property and a lot of projects are shut down in early stages because of copyright infringement.

With all that said. People have been holding Axanar up as a possible "best fan made evaaaahhh!" and I certainly hope it goes ahead because I liked the prelude and am eager to see more.

I also don't want to see the end of future fan made films because, even though a lot of them are bad, you just never know what fans are capable of.

I have access but haven't been playing. I need to re-download the game because my I changed computers since the hanger & dogfighting modules.

Please tell us how you are getting on with it Sail (and anybody else who is giving it a go). :)

I submitted my BOP,

I have no idea how to make a build without space magic and beams....

We had a member of leadership donate $10,000 to the Kickstarter. I hope the final product looks amazing :)

I havent been playing around in the alpha but i know some other people have.

I think it's positive there are openly gay people in governments. It means the gradual shift to equality between LGBT and non-LGBT people is continuing.
As far as I know there are no openly gay politicians here in the Netherlands, not in high places anyway. But to be fair, I don't really follow politics all that much, so there's a decent change I'm mistaken.

Oh wow, last post was 3years, 1month? Well I didn’t find much of any other thread talking about SC, so I thought I’d go ahead and try my luck to see if there are other backers around playing in alpha.

This is almost a year late but better late than never! ;)

In Canada we have 10 Provinces and 3 Territories. Each has a Premier which is the Head of Government in their respective province. For the first time in history Prince Edward Island has it's first openly gay Premier, Wade MacLauchlan. It's a huge deal in PEI since he stepped in for Robert Ghiz who had to... step down before election lol
The first openly gay Premier in Canada was Kathleen Wynne who is the Premier in Ontario.

Wade

Kathleen

Do you guys have any thoughts? Do you guys have a member of government who is openly gay?

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/crowdfunded-star-trek-movie-draws-851474

Well, this is not good, if they want to shut down axanar, then, that makes me think STB is not good enough to stand against it, which is very, very bad for STB.


I hope Axanar survives, it looked awesome.

sounds like fun.

Sweet idea! Sounds like fun!

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ATTENTION ALL CAPTAINS!

The Mirror Universe is only one of many planes that exist in parallel to our own. Very little is know about these other planes of existences. However the heavy incursion of the Mirror Universe into our own have weaken the planar barriers between all planes of existence. Gateways to these other planes have been discovered in our universe allowing a select team to explore these other planes of existence.

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While we love Star Trek Online there are plenty of other games out there and a lot of our members play a large number of other games. In that spirit we are holding this event to facilitate Stonewall Gaming Network members the same safe, affirming and fun environment that is available to SGN members in STO

Each month, we will host a weekend where we play another game, we will try to stay with a game that is expansive but free-to-play or have a low start up cost. We want to encourage a fun and exciting event and we also want to encourage as many people as possible to participate. In that spirit we will be awarding two prizes each month during the event. The first will be a random draw for participating. The second will be an MVP award for the top performer during the weekend.

At the end of the year there will be 2 more prizes the first will be another random draw and the more weekend you participated in then more entries you get. The 2nd will be the Event's MVP, the overall top performer all year long.

The first game will be announced VERY SOON

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Have I done something wrong or have a bad reputation or something? When I try to chat I get the ice treatment. Is it me you don't like or is this how the fleet works? If this is how the fleet works then I will be starting to look for another fleet. I am a social person and play this game a lot for the chat and fun you can have with other fleet member. I won't deal with a minefield of clicks that wont even give you the courtesy of a Hi. Sheesh...the last fleet I was in was super fun until they found out I was trans. Anyway if you guys don't want me to be here let me know and I will shuffle along. No hard feelings, I just don't want to beat my head against a brick. Life is too short.

Merry Christmas

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Online communication can be a complex subject to address. Addressing a chat room can be like telling a freeway of speeding traffic that you're there to chat and stuff -there's a lot going on with each user at the same time. Stonewall is a global gaming community with different time zones, different people, and different and unique social customes.

There are no chat requirements that compel people to chat, many are inclined to engross themselves in the game itself while others are more casual and engage in chatting when available.

I enjoy chatting but sometimes I do not catch conversations because I'm getting fired at or I'm desperately attempting to prevent my ship from blowing up :)

Please do read Voleron's Guide to Happy Fleet Interaction. It's a definitive guide that will eventually become included in our Welcome Center (unless it's there already and I haven't noticed). Happy reading!

http://fleet.stonewallgaming.net/forums/ten-forward/74609-volerons-guide-to-happy-fleet-interaction#87519

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It's the holidays as well. I have hosted thanksgiving, friends giving, a company holiday party, a christmas party for friends, christmas dinner for family, a christmas dinner fundraiser for LGBT homeless youth. I do not think I have even logged in once the past two months. Lots of people are traveling, out of town, drunk, wishing they were drunk, drunk and wishing they weren't drunk, wishing the tree would catch on fire and fall on the racist cousin (or is that just me), etc.

Things will pick back up.