I'm really sorry to hear that you have had this experience while in the fleet and I can only feel apologetic about the situation even if I wasn't involved.

I try to hold myself to a high standard when dealing with others with different colours, genders, beliefs, and principles but it can be dammed hard when faced with those who can't help themselves. Unfortunately, we are all human and we all have our own prejudice towards others. There have been a few times when I've had to bite my tongue when reading people talk about religion being the source of all evil etc etc.

As a British citizen I have a very dry wit and can be often seen playing it very close to the line in my way of talking to others and being humourous. I sincerely hope this is never taken as serious and can be taken in the spirit it is meant: a very unfunny man giggling to himself behind a PC about being inappropriate. :blush:

Finally, I just wanted to remind you that there are many people in the fleet who have their own high standards of behaviour who have made me almost cry with how lovely they've been to me via Vent or chat in-game and who have never judged me on what I had to say and offered help with real life situations and in-game.

Game has been delayed until at least Fall

Walkthrough from E3: http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2011-star-trek/716091

Screenshots from my Massively.com post: http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/06/08/e3-2011-a-look-at-star-trek-infinite-space/

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No, we don't use the Facebook group anymore. We do, however, use the Facebook fanpage.

http://www.facebook.com/StonewallFleet

Ah yeah that's the one. No worries. There is an awesome website, so a facebook thingy is not really needed. I just thought I'd ask :)

Episode 297 - Deep Space Nine - "Vortex" - 4/18/1993

http://www.allstepisodes.com/googlevideodatabase.php?n=3112

Odo discovers he may not be the only one of his kind when a visitor from the Gamma Quadrant claims he can contact Odo's people.

Enjoy!

It always surprises me when people in the GLBTQ community--people who know what it feels like to be excluded--display prejudice and intolerance toward other groups. Last night, I witnessed and became part of an unpleasant exchange in the Fleet chat channel that left me with my heart pounding in my chest, feeling much like I felt after an incident of real life gay bashing. I wanted to share my thoughts on this, not to revel in the victim role, but because I think we can do better.

The incident I'm talking about may sound silly to some of you. It started with a discussion of "gingers"--people with fair skin and red hair. Many people were expressing appreciation for them, but one individual started spewing an incessant stream of vitriol toward gingers and disrespect toward those who like them. The person later claimed to be "obviously" joking, but the tone and repetition of the unpleasant comments did not come across as funny. (This was in the fleet text chat channel, and no smileys were used.) I don't consider myself overly sensitive, but like I said, the comments affected me on a physical level. I expressed my concerns, and tried to remove myself from the situation by closing the chat window, but another player was PMing me asking for help, so I kept seeing the comments about how I was being "overly sensitive" and couldn't take a joke.

Yes, I have red hair. Growing up, I was teased with such taunts as, "I'd rather be dead than red in the head," just because I was different. Even if you don't have red hair, I'm guessing most people in this fleet know what it's like to be excluded because of being different. That's exactly why I hold GLBTQ people to a higher standard in such situations. We've been there. We know what it's like. We're the last people who should exclude others from our groups.

Previously, I have also seen fleet members express other prejudices that made me uncomfortable. I've seen some of our straight-ally members confronted about why they're in a gay fleet. And I've heard some gender-related prejudice on fleet channels, mostly from men who sometimes forget that Stonewall is not a gay-men-only club.

Anyway, the purpose of this post is twofold. First I would like to thank those of you who spoke up in my defense last night. And second, I would like to ask us all to be vigilant about our own prejudices.

Just as straight people enjoy a position of privilege, where many of them never have to think about what it's like to be discriminated against on the basis of who they love, each of us is in a position of privilege in one way or another. Some of us have never been discriminated against because of the color of our skin. Some of us don't know what it's like to be paid less than our colleagues because of our gender. But most of us know what it feels like to be attacked with gay epithets.

I encourage all of us (hey, I know I have my own prejudices, too) to work on our empathy, and try to imagine what it's like in the other person's shoes. We all have experience being on the receiving end of prejudice. Use that experience to inform your own actions and words toward other groups.

If you feel like expressing that you, personally, don't find gingers attractive, or don't think straight allies should be in the fleet, try replacing "ginger" or "straight" with a more obviously unacceptable prejudice, like "black" or "lesbian" and see how your words sound. You might be surprised at how ugly your "joke" sounds to someone else.

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I was trying to "like" the Stonewall Facebook fanpage and I can't do it. I think I've done too many runs of Infected and Cure cause I must be stupid hahaha. I can't figure out how to link myself to it hahaha
:blink:

Looks like you're already a fan.

not sad to say goodbye to codemasters, they can go on my Atari pile :laugh:

I was trying to "like" the Stonewall Facebook fanpage and I can't do it. I think I've done too many runs of Infected and Cure cause I must be stupid hahaha. I can't figure out how to link myself to it hahaha
:blink:

I found myself totally confused by this game. I understand it is F2P and STO isn't, but was there really a need for this game? I mean STO does a great job of giving me a Star Trek fix. I don't understand why we needed another Star Trek MMO.

Just a quick heads up for the Codemasters Migratee's to turbine.. System got hacked and usernames and encrypted passwords got looked at possibly stolen.

May be a good time to change passwords.

http://community.codemasters.com/forum/news-announcements-1300/announcements.html

Episode 296 - Deep Space Nine - "The Nagus" - 3/21/1993

http://www.allstepisodes.com/googlevideodatabase.php?n=3111

Quark is named as the head of the Ferengi Alliance by Grand Nagus Zek, but he is now surrounded by enemies.

Enjoy!

I couldnt disagree more. First point is you had to pay in the past, Moria and Mirkwood were expansions that cost around £20 each. Also the subscription fee was £8.99 a month. If you didnt pay then you couldnt log in.

Now if you pay nothing you can log in and play the starting areas Shire, Bree, Ered Luin, Lone Lands. You can then buy different area's quest packs as you come to them.

Its naive to think you can play an MMO with all the bells and whistles and not pay a penny. End of the day they are businesses that need to make money so they can expand while attracting new customers.

i am unhappy with the new f2p system. first the stuff was free like in moria, now i have to pay for it. i had character slots. in first for free. so i make all classes on the server, now i had to pay, or leave 2 character slots behind. coz the 2 slots are locked.

after all. i think they damaged the game badly. they chosen the wrong path, in the way the choose what is free and what not. so every arae has quest but u must pay for them. in moria ,too. not good so farewell frodo and bilbo

Names for Empire Aligned Sister Guild. I propose

Lords of Stonewall

No, we don't use the Facebook group anymore. We do, however, use the Facebook fanpage.

http://www.facebook.com/StonewallFleet

Episode 295 - Deep Space Nine - "Move Along Home" - 3/14/1993



Parts 2-3:

Found from the above link in the related videos section

Quark is forced to play a game by the Wadi, a newly encountered species, and the lives of the crew depend on the outcome.

Enjoy!

I don't have a social life. xD Also, after my amnesia, I barely remember many of the people on my contact list.

Lots of my mates use it to run their social lives (ie. parties, events etc) so I tend to keep an eye on it :)

I barely even use my facebook. :p

I was sooo looking forward to this game, but the more I see of the gameplay, the more "meh" I get about it...

I'll probably still buy it and try it out, cos hey, it's Star Wars, but I think it's a massive shame that they went with the typical reskinned-WoW playstyle... it just doesn't make any sense for Star Wars... leaving aside the class trinity, how many times do you need to poke someone with a lightsaber before you kill them in the films? How many rockets to the face? Could Han Solo really take 1.21 Gigawatts up his backside and carry on shooting his little blaster pistol as if nothing happened?

The cinematics look very cool, but the gameplay... I dunno... sorry, don't mean to be a killjoy!! :(