I will vote and I do take that seriously. This is my first time ever being in a LGBT guild and I feel right at home. However, where politics are concerned I'm going to shy away from this thread and leave the time and room for those of you who really do enjoy political discussions. I'm afraid I'm just not one of those people. I can see many people here diving into this pretty deep. I've seen some people here crawl all over politics like ants at a sugar convention LOL so much so I've often wondered how these people are even going to enjoy this game...when on the surface there was sooooo much LGBT issues they were monitoring and responding to...etc.

I hope that whatever level of politics you dive into, remember that we gathered here to enjoy a game together...I'm hoping that is first and foremost.

Respectfully,

Siafu

Hello All,

I am very involved in politics. My BA is in Poli-Sci, so I find it very hard to sit quietly by and not be involved in politics and political discussions, especially during crucial election years.

I imagine some may not feel that politics belongs in regular chat, so, I created a chat specifically for discussing all matters of a political nature.

All respectful opinions and viewpoints are welcome. I believe that this is one of the most crucial times in living history for LGBT rights since the Stonewall riots, and I urge everyone to not just vote, but become involved.

While the very nature of politics may lead to some heated conversations, NO personal attacks of any kind will be tolerated.

Anybody who is interested may join: /join StonewallPolitics

I agree that I'd like to see the Facebook/Twitter feeds a combined feed for the Stonewall community. I don't mind getting the odd feed about the other guilds, even if I'm not a part of them.

If we have big events that we want to broadcast to only a subset of players from a single guild, I assume that we could probably customize an email fan-out to do that?

As it is, the social networking feeds aren't terribly active, so a universal Stonewall feed may bring some life to the groups too :)

Hey everyone - two great reads on gw2guru

http://www.guildwars2guru.com/news/778-the-mysterious-mystic-forge/

http://www.guildwars2guru.com/news/780-the-recipe-for-crafting-your-legendary-including-screenshots/

Interesting stats on the weapons - I wonder if there are different versions?

I wish I had a better idea of how the mystic forge works. :\

I agree with Siran. A who's Who list would be nice.

Also, I think it would be an excellent idea to have a weekly Starbase gathering of some sort, as I posted in mt thread. I think what's missing currently is a feeling of cohesiveness/congeniality.

If for no other reason than the starbase is costing a fortune to develop, it should be used from time to time, lol.

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So many runes in my bank, I should just sell them..

Ditto!

I think one thing that would be handy is a single, easy-to-find list of the full complement of guild officers (separated for the different games, of course). Knowing who does what, who's an officer and who's not, can be really tricky, especially for a newcomer. Heaven knows I don't know who does what at the moment, and I'm not a newcomer.

Episode 727 - Enterprise - "Bound" - 04/15/2005

http://www.allstepisodes.com/megvid.php?n=5417

As a gift for negotiating with the Orion Syndicate, Archer receives three Orion Slave Girls, but these "gifts" have their own agenda. Meanwhile, Trip and T'Pol come to terms with the psychic bond that has been created between them.

Enjoy!

The Stonewall Fleet started from a simple post in a forum in July 2008. Over the years the Stonewall Gamming Network has expanded into multiple MMO’s with a membership database of over 2,000 members that’s keeps growing by the day.

The leadership of Stonewall Fleet is asking its members what you need. Is it daily PvP, PvE, Fleet Marks, Dilithium Grinding or is it a weekly Social Gathering? If you have another idea or suggestion, we’re listening.

Keep your response short and sweet.

That's kinda mind-blowing. I assume they did more than just 2 crafting professions to get that much XP.

So many runes in my bank, I should just sell them..

Thanks so much... that was all very helpful!!!

I now have space in my bank again! (I had even plugged down $7.50 for an extra set of slots :blush: )

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For instance. A 5 year old may have a very mature reaction to something. That was not a natural occurrence in my opinion. It was the parents and what was taught to the child. How was that child's problem solving skills developed in the first place.

I realize this was a statement and not a question but I'm going to add the ? to the end of your statement and explain:

Even though parents do try to instill maturity in their kids. I don't believe "maturity" in anyone is so much a taught and learned behavior as your statement suggests. It's my opinion that is is a natural gift...and a deep or shallow well this person draws from to react or take no action at all.

This is why some people or even kids have a loosely measurable maturity level that would seem to fill up an 18-wheeler were as some others maturity levels might not fill a coffee cup. Parents teaching and guidance (or other influences) are actually the polish and shaping on something that is already there... a base formula if you wish...that is already there in abundance or barely at all.

So for example...your five year old comes home from school and recounts that a bully was picking on some smaller weaker kid and your child intervened and not only confronted the bully physically to stop him from what he was doing but he also reported the entire matter to lets say a guidance counselor. You the parent have taught your child that fighting is wrong and mind your own business...and yet he/she disregards your teaching and influence and did what he did to stop the bully.

Under these conditions and similar other ones...one has to ask...where did this level of maturity come from? When all things he/she was taught would have dictated a very different reaction or inaction from this child.

These particular set of circumstances are called, "surprises!" Where you would turn around as the parent and think or say..."WoW! I didn't know my kid had that in him / her!"

I absolutely respect that many of you want to believe that mental maturity (not physical) maturity literally comes from long life experiences and teaching from other people, family and friends and the like...but a very basic core foundation of maturity is something you already have.....ALL the rest that comes after your ability to analyze any given situation...is more and more polish and shaping on a very unique and natural ability..that will play out circumstantially as your life gets longer.

Then all hell will break loose (sometimes) when perspective by other people enters the picture...and the reason that happens is all too obvious. Different strokes for different folks.

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... I also think the definition itself varies based on the perspective/person as it involves some degree of judgment. What’s “appropriate” varies. IE- if someone stands up against a bigot - that action may be viewed as mature by one person because "(s)he stood up for what's 'right' – (s)he was mature"; however another person might find the action immature because ignoring the bigot was a more appropriate and mature action.

You are 100% correct my friend! :)

Episode 726 - Enterprise - "Divergence" - 02/25/2005

http://www.allstepisodes.com/megvid.php?n=5416

With the Columbia's help, the Enterprise crew grapples with sabotage to their ship as they pursue the truth behind the kidnapping of Phlox. The disease is cured, but genetic mutations will make many Klingons appear human-like for generations to come.

Enjoy!

All the reasons everyone has already given are good for keeping everything "united."

Unity! Keep us all united :)

Very interesting question and some great responses. For me, maturity in the simplest sense means reaching the end of a cycle, or maybe something more along the lines of developing fully. As human beings, I don't we'll ever reach that point in an absolute sense-were constantly learning and changing based on our experiences. I also think the definition itself varies based on the perspective/person as it involves some degree of judgment. What’s “appropriate” varies. IE- if someone stands up against a bigot - that action may be viewed as mature by one person because "(s)he stood up for what's 'right' – (s)he was mature"; however another person might find the action immature because ignoring the bigot was a more appropriate and mature action.

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So I made the post and didnt answer the question myself. I find maturity to be a combination of things. Life experience to know what needs to be done and when to ask for help. To know that there is a time and place for things. To have a life plan, goals and security set up for yourself. To have seen some form of adversity and have risen above it. I think those things and being able to understand and express yourself in a positive way really shows maturity.

Life experience can come quickly or slowly. It depends on the person. It is not really the age that matters. For instance. A 5 year old may have a very mature reaction to something. That was not a natural occurance in my opinon. It was the parents and what was taught to the child. How was that childs problem solving skills developed in the first place. As for the commentary about being funny or doing something percived by others as immature. Like I said, there is a time and a place for humor and downright sillyness. I belive maturity is understanding when that time and place is. Example. Person A is at a funeral and disagrees with how the funeral was done. They decide that after the funeral and approate grieving time, to possible question the person who set up the funeral. In a polite and calm manner. trying to see it from that persons perspective and understand the choices. (Mature way to do it)
Person B. Makes a scene is rude and is very disrespectful to fellow mourners. Then at the wake decides it would be a good idea to bad mouth the person who set the whole thing up. (Immature)
Both people were mad, but 1 decided that there was a time and place for the anger and delt with it properly. Thats the other fun thing about maturity. We all have diffrent views on what makes a person mature. Its why I love this question. By expressing what you find to be maturity, you inadvertantly express whats important to you in life. Mostly because its drilled in our heads that you should always be mature. Some people find that always being honest is a sign of maturity. Showing that the value honesty. Food for thought ^.^

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When maturity (their natural gift) is applied by said person of any given age, their maturity is evaluated by others and the inevitable outcome one desires is to be addressed or looked upon with respect in that you as a person elevated yourself above a situation that would normally be perceived as above your age or pay-grade sort-of-speak. Where in you are perceived by not only yourself as "mature" but also by the witnesses of your communication, actions or inaction's where the outcome is "respect."

Ok to help you understand what I said: "When maturity (their natural gift) is applied by said person of any given age, their maturity is evaluated by others and the inevitable outcome one desires is to be addressed or looked upon with respect..."

The outcome (of what you are doing) in so far as I can tell, is not to produce "respect" your desired outcome is to produce "Humor!" by way of acting silly. Humor is Humor and this is all together evaluated in a completely different way than when someone is being evaluated for...maturity. When someone acts like a baby during sex for example (this can arguably) be called immature behavior...I don't believe so....it's silly humor and has nothing to do with self-respect or the respect of your partner, someone who would do this is just being creative, thinking outside of the proverbial box...and it's funny.

If you are finding it hard to believe that your family and friends and therapist are all saying that you are mature and you don't want to believe them....then feel free to believe what you think you are. Frankly, I'm finding your communication over this point...rather mature...so now you have one more person who supports the evaluation....I'm sorry if you are somehow wanting that outcome to be different.

/wink :)