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I think it's more consistent and clear to use "Stonewall" in English along with a Romulan-themed word that means "fleet" or "legion" or something like that. This makes it really clear that it's part of our family of fleets. Purely Romulan names don't communicate anything to someone seeing them the first time, and I think they're difficult to identify with. Most of us won't know how to pronounce them, and no one who wasn't present for the decision is going to know what they mean.

You make a great point, but has that been so much of an issue for the House of Nagh'Red? Just a point of curiosity.

Excellent question Sej, so I will answer your question by posing two of my own. (and this is to anyone reading this thread or has had this happen to them.)

How many times have you heard of a player joining our Fed fleet(s) because they saw one of us in our Fed toons with the name "Stonewall" clearly displayed over our ship or character?

Now, how many times have you heard of a KDF player doing the same thing because they knew how to read Klingon?

There were other factors yes, but I feel recruitment for Nagh'reD may have suffered because of it. Stonewall (in English) is classy and recognizable and is a big part of who we are as a community without being overt.

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I think it's more consistent and clear to use "Stonewall" in English along with a Romulan-themed word that means "fleet" or "legion" or something like that. This makes it really clear that it's part of our family of fleets. Purely Romulan names don't communicate anything to someone seeing them the first time, and I think they're difficult to identify with. Most of us won't know how to pronounce them, and no one who wasn't present for the decision is going to know what they mean.

You make a great point, but has that been so much of an issue for the House of Nagh'Red? Just a point of curiosity.

Oh, and while I'm not such a fan of the Rihannsu canon of Diane Carey's (eminently reasonable, and a clear fan-favorite), I do see the draw.

I might suggest that perhaps we take one of the Rihan canonical names, and consider abbreviating them? I mean - Romulans must have contractions, amirite?

eg: Jo'honn Karansu, or perhaps Reh'honn Karansu

Thoughts?

Oh, great, there went my Romulan character name which I've been saving since launch: Karasu (which is Japanese, so I suppose it wouldn't have worked anyway).

How many of our Vulcan/Alien characters are allowed to defect, do you suppose? Coming Out Day!

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OK so my vote would be for either:

Karanha Jorreh'honn or Karanha I(III) Jorreh'honn

or

Jorreh'honn Karansu

although the first option Jorreh'honn Karanha is also fun ;)

If we're going to keep Stonewall in English then we're going to have to change the Klingon Fleet's name as well.

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Jorreh'honn Karanha - Stonewall Legion (In Romulan)

Jorreh'honn Karansu - Stonewall Legionnaires (In Romulan)

Thanks Bud! Its a fairly valid point about "Stonewall" beign in English, but I think Kei, makes a really good point too. Our Klink fleet hasn't had "stonewall" and by extension any link with stonewall either. Maybe that's worth correcting if we go with that.

My personal leaning is Stonewall Karansu, for two reasons; 1 it just rolls off the tongue moreso that "Karanha" and second because "Legionnaires" is cooler. LOL

OK so my vote would be for either:

Karanha Jorreh'honn or Karanha I(III) Jorreh'honn

or

Jorreh'honn Karansu

although the first option Jorreh'honn Karanha is also fun ;)

If we're going to keep Stonewall in English then we're going to have to change the Klingon Fleet's name as well.

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Jorreh'honn Karanha - Stonewall Legion (In Romulan)

Jorreh'honn Karansu - Stonewall Legionnaires (In Romulan)

I think it's more consistent and clear to use "Stonewall" in English along with a Romulan-themed word that means "fleet" or "legion" or something like that. This makes it really clear that it's part of our family of fleets. Purely Romulan names don't communicate anything to someone seeing them the first time, and I think they're difficult to identify with. Most of us won't know how to pronounce them, and no one who wasn't present for the decision is going to know what they mean.

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Look, I found a game-play video for it. Looks fun.

Jorreh'honn Karanha - Stonewall Legion (In Romulan)

Jorreh'honn Karansu - Stonewall Legionnaires (In Romulan)

Vroth Jorreh'honn children of stonewall

PUNCH AND PIE, PUNCH AND PIE!!!!!!!!!!

I still think we should refer to our fleet either as a fleet or a legion, I'm partial to a legion in the old roman style of naming, that's what I meant by a Roman Republic naming style as opposed to a Roman Empire naming style not that the word Republic would be in our fleet name, we're already in the Republic, that would be like calling the USMC the United States Republic Marine Corps...or calling my unit Republican Oscar Battery etc... uh No ;)

What I meant was something similar to Legio 3 "Stonewall" but in Romulan. The 3 cause we're the 3rd fleet or legion of Stonewall in the game.

Thanks for the read. It has given me a few things to think about.
xo
Shawn

Thanks for sharing of yourself with us all; I enjoyed the read and learning a bit about you. It's always interesting to learn of other people's stories, the obstacles to happiness that they faced and how they overcame those obstacles to eventually be at peace with who they are, as LGBT people.

Cheers :)
Dave.

What's cool is that one of the folks that got tangled up in all of this contacted me with an abject apology and reconciliation, which was more than I was expecting, though honestly, knowing this person, I should have raised my expectations.

Personally i would prefer if the fleet name had neither Empire or Republic in it.
Empire is inaccurate (curse you Abrams) and Republic sticks in my craw.

That was truly beautiful, articulate, and full of truth on a multitude of levels. Thank you so much for sharing!

Which side are people thinking, still 2 races and 2 classes to be announced so nothing set in stone.

So far I am learning for the Dominion and probably so far a Cassian Spellslinger (Settler)

So, some of you know that folks have been posting a red-and-pink version of the Human Rights Campaign logo as their Facebook userpic to show their support of LGBT rights in light of the Supreme Court deliberations going on in the US right now. I posted the pic, and it ended up blowing up into huge arguments from several people on several fronts, with each other and with me.

Today I wrote an essay to post to Facebook, which I turned around and posted to my blog. The wonderful news is that one of my friends I was arguing with most, we've had a very deep heart-to-heart and she has come around, so that was better than I had expected.

Anyway, here's the essay:
https://whittierstrong.wordpress.com/2013/03/27/friends/

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