Really? THIS is what they have reduced Trek to? A man having to explain to his 11-year old son why Bill Shatner's wannabe is in bed with two chicks...?? *WTF?*

Gay kids are killing themselves because there isn't a 1966 version of Uhura around for them to prove that you can indeed offer VALUE to a team saving everything; that you can BE SOMETHING other than *just* gay. Whoopie Goldeberg: Mama, mama...! There's a black lady on TV, and she ain't no maid!"

"...hey dad, hey dad...! There's a gay man on TV, and he ain't no dizzy stereotypical queen choking on his lisp!"

Support for this sorry excuse for a Trek movie is just wrong. Star Trek is at its very best when it is making a statement about us as human beings at our worst, and especially, at our best. Sorry if I'm a hater because I don't need a lense flare to make that happen. *INTO DARKNESS* *WEAK ACTION FLICK* ***FAIL***

My 11-year-old and I agreed that it was a great movie, specifically that it was much better than the first one. We really enjoyed it.

My only complaint was about the cinematography, which I thought was too jumbled, chaotic, and jumpy. But I liked the plot and story a lot. Best movie I've seen in quite a while.

I could have done without them putting Kirk in bed with two alien girls. That made for a fun ride home...

Event Re-Cap!

I'd like to extend a huge congratulations and thank-you to everyone who came together to make this event possible, especially, Iccarus and Jacien: the fine Fleet Captains of the Klingon Affairs department! The KDF roster has never seen so many members online simultaneously in recent history, and a fantastic time was had by all!

Thank you to all warriors who joined us today, and remember to ally your newly created Romulans and Remans with the House of Nagh reD, come the launch of Legacy of Romulus!

Below, are several action shots from the Bat'leth tournament, for those who missed it!

First place: LoS cha'maH (@Six-of-Nine) Winner of 2,500 Zen!
Second Place: Amun (@NicholasJohn16) Winner of Korath Uniform!

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My BF made me see it tonight and now calls me pointy :angry: It left me feeling empty. It's simply regurgitated plot. Action film yes, hacky
uninspired writing clearly, Trek film in name only.

Prepare yourselves! A rather harsh review is incoming.

I have a problem with this topic and a lot of the replies to this topic. My problem is this: everyone keeps calling this a Star Trek movie. In my opinion, there is absolutely nothing "Star Trek" about the movie other than the names.

Let me elaborate:


That is all I will say for now.

LOVVVVEEEED IT

Old post! :)

Well, I think this warrants enough of a response to go ahead with a trial run of this.

I'm gonna claim a Sunday evening to try this out and we'll see how clumsy we all are. lol The party sizes in GW1 are (depending on the mission/area) 4-8 people so we can accommodate at least everyone who is remotely interested. :)

I'll try to figure out a way to publicly organize this but it would be helpful if interested parties messaged me too!

Can't wait to make minions from all of your corpses. :D

-Bren

Also!

A HUMUNGOUS thank you to our leader, Elquin, for purchasing the last 8,000 points of influence for the guild! Be sure to thank him next time you see him in game. :)

We love you, Elquin! :laugh:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/85706361/swvgguildmissions.jpgWeek of May 16th and 18th

Hello Stonewall Vanguard

Congratulations on a successful week of guild missions!

Announcement: Guild Rushes are only 8 days away from being unlocked! We gathered enough influence and it's just a matter of time now before we'll be scuttling, hopping, and howling our way through those rushes!

This past week though, we got beat around a little but walked away victorious on a number of fronts.

We cleared a tier 1 Guild Bounty on Thursday earning all out participating members a guild bounty chest (one person got an exotic!). We then went up against two tough training bounties (Devious Tessa and Tricksy Trekksa) and got the karka shells beat out of us. lol We didn't even FIND Trekksa until the last couple of seconds! But that's what training bounties are all about.

Saturday we very easily completed another Guild Trek (tier 2 again) and got Noviere (who couldn't attend Thursday's mission) his weekly bounty chest.

We've had some great attendance to these missions and lots of fun vent chat. :D (Norns... :evil: ...) Seriously though, great team coordination!

Reminder: The GW2 wiki says it best:

Once we have guild rushes unlocked that will be 2 chances at commendations and an ascended accessory from guild mission chests

Thank you all for this... the reluctance has now turned into certainty: definitely not seeing this any time soon.

Just in case someone isn't prepared, and because they're cheap, I bought a dozen each of the approved sword and armor, and will share with whoever doesn't have it.

Here is a reply to the last persons comment. It has spoilers

I have to confess, I did love it when they mentioned 31.

Yo, backyard, can you put that shit behind some spoiler text for the people who haven't seen it? Thanks.

I agree about the whitewashing of the villain. There is no excuse for that.

However, I'd argue that this movie actual had more character development than most Star Trek movies (which have traditionally been far more action-driven, like Wrath of Khan and First Contact). Additionally, the design of that ship is supposed to be un-Trek. It's supposed to represent everything the Enterprise does not. That was kind of the whole point.

I'd also argue that if you actually think carefully about the plot, there are less plotholes than you think. When I was discussing the movie with some friends, a lot of the plotholes they thought existed were taken care of; they had just forgotten some of the movie's dialog.

I would love to see a section 31 movie out of this universe!

There was one review I read that was titled "Star Trek Into Dumbness". I really agree with that title (and most of the review's assessment).

I didn't like the film too much. I think it tried too hard to pay hommage to older Trek films. And it was still plagued by the immense plot holes and general stupidness of the first reboot movie. If you think about most of the plotlines of the movie for a minute, the whole thing sorta falls apart.

It's still an enjoyable movie for many of its action scenes and some of its ideas. But like its predecessor it's simply driven by action instead of stories or characters. It felt really mediocre to me in the end.

There are some things I'm not thrilled about at all: I don't get how Khan went from Ricardo Montalban to Benedict Cumberbatch. It doesn't make any sense and they don't try to explain it away. At all.

I also hate the U.S.S. Vengeance. It embodies a lot of what I think is wrong with the new Star Trek universe. The name alone is the opposite of subtlety and creativeness. The look of it is even more enraging to me. It's gross and untrek - not unlike some of the early STO designs (that even the devs are embarrassed about by now). And building a large vessel of mass destruction without anyone noticing? Yeah, Nemesis did that as well...

I really enjoyed the film i really really did and it was visually stunning.

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Yes, one of the villains in the movie is Khan. However, he's also been whitewashed, as he is now played by the (very) white Benedict Cumberbatch instead of a man of color, as he originally was by Ricardo Montalban. Yeah, there are going to be the excuses that it was done to keep who he really was a secret. However, the fact that casting Khan as a race other than white would have given it away already speaks volumes of the major diversity problem in Hollywood.

The gorn baby line was cute, but I'm a bit disappointed that we didn't have any Kirk vs Gorn fight scene to lead into that. Also disappointed that it was, apparently, several years off of the Gorn's forced introduction to Starfleet. Oh well.

I am none too happy with JJ taking my beloved Star Trek and having his way with it, but apart from that, I thought it was an amazing film and felt infinitely more like Star Trek than his previous attempt.

Also, were there any easter eggs at the end of the credits? My friends all rushed me out of the theatre during the credits, the jerks.

Loved it. Started an alternative thread for people who liked it to talk about how awesome it is. Was only disappointed at some 'whitewashing' that was done with regard to the villain.

With regard to the android, he may have also been a cybernetic human. Maybe he had a brain tumor or something as a kid?

Also loved all the apocryphal references. In addition to the ones you mentioned...

Starting a thread for people to pour some love on the new film, as the other one is one serious fountain of negativity.

I personally loved the movie. If you didn't like the reboot, yeah, you're not going to like this. However, if you're willing to let the alternate Star Trek universe go into some different and (quite frankly cool) places, you will love this movie. I went with a horde of Trekkies and we enjoyed practically every minute.

Yeah, it's not perfect. The end of the movie starts to get a bit weird (there's one contradiction with an establishment shot and one of the last scenes drags a bit), but it doesn't harm the movie.

Most of the complaints I've read/heard about the movie are rather nitpicky. If you go in with the same open-mindedness that's required to enjoy the last movie (and quite frankly, most other Star Trek movies), you will have a great time.

Also, for those well-versed in Trek historical apocrypha, this movie does an amazing job of couching its story in the larger Trek universes.

Finally: FUCK YEAH USING THE NATIONAL IGNITION FACILITY AS THE WARP CORE! As a scientist and someone how has visited the NIF at Lawrence Livermore, I thought that was super cool.

Adendum: I should add that there was one thing that did bug me about this movie in a significant way. However, it relates to a spoiler that you may or may not have seen coming. Soooo it's hidden in the spoiler text.